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downpours. oklahoma city picked up two inches of rain. as far as the drought has gone, i know we're not in the growing season anymore, we still need the rains. we still need to fill up the reservoirs in someareas. kansas and oklomare wototend triest over the last month or two. they're the ones getting some of the rainfall. so that's great. as far as the situation goes, kind of had one of the classic battles going on with the cool air moving from the north. warm, humid air to the south. right in the m sl where we're locked in with the showers and thundetorm la. t atio oklahoma city is now dry. almost two inches of rain for you. but as you notice you still have numerous areas of rain in tulsa, oklahoma, three quarters of a inch. significant but not a drought buster. this morning, if you've been driving the pennsylvania turnpike, you needed the wirs, rt tov tdshe philadelphia area. even a little heavy down pour north of baltimore now. so if you're driving from baltimore back up here through wilmington, delaware, you're gog to get wetn the next half hour or so. be prepared for that
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weather. savannah? >> all right, al. president obama, governor romney both in new york city today to speak at the clinton global initiative, and the president will also deliver an address to the united nations general assembly. governor romney will drop by nbc's education nation summit. chuck todd is nbc's political director, chief white house correspondent. you come with your telestrator today. >> i do, i do. >> let's talk about the state of the union in terms of the battleground map. we know 270 is the magic number. >> right. >> where do things stand? >> right now we have the president at 243 here, and what that means is we've got states adding up 243 electoral votes. it 70, of course, is the magic number. what we've recently moved was the state of iowa, and that put him at 243. what's interesting here, savannah. he now needs only a couple of states, a couple of the big states, big three that i talk about all the time, ohio, florida, virginia, just a couple of ways and he gets over the finish line. >> we talk about ohio. it's usually a bellwether, a couple of scenarios to run through her
's great to be with you. host: you are in the midst of a 100-city tour that you tell me is running through election day. where are you at this point in the tour, and how many more cities do you have? guest: well, i think i'm at c-span right now, although it is a little confusing. last night i was at the university of virginia in charlingtsville. today we'll be at the washington convention center, the green fest tonight. baltimore book fest. tomorrow, richmond, virginia, at noon. and then in the evening i'll speak in norfolk. then on monday night, we'll be at virginia tech, which is very interesting, going back to the scene of the massacre. i'll be speaking there, you know, 32 people were killed there. and colin goddard is coming with us. he was one of those victims. he was shot four times. i'm also looking forward to interviewing a professor there. and then we're on to colorado for the big debate. we're going to be doing something interesting. we're both speaking on the silent majority election 2012 tour, but also we do this daily, radio and television broadcast that airs on over 1,100 sta
romney both in new york city today to speak at the clinton global initiative, and the president will also deliver an address to the united nations general assembly. governor romney will drop by nbc's education nation summit. chuck todd is nbc's political director, chief white house correspondent. you come with your telestrator today. >> i do, i do. >> let's talk about the state of the union in terms of the battleground map. we know 270 is the magic number. >> right. >> where do things stand? >> right now we have the president at 243 here, and what that means is we've got states adding up 243 electoral votes. it 70, of course, is the magic number. what we've recently moved was the state of iowa, and that put him at 243. what's interesting here, savannah. he now needs only a couple of states, a couple of the big states, big three that i talk about all the time, ohio, florida, virginia, just a couple of ways and he gets over the finish line. >> we talk about ohio. it's usually a bellwether, a couple of scenarios to run through here. i think this one shows if president obama takes ohio. >> we
, president obama and governor romney both in new york city to speak at the the clinton global initiative. governor romney will drob by nbc's education summit. chuck todd is the nbc's political director. you koom with your telestrator today. >> i do. >> let's talk about the state of the union in terms of the battleground map. we know that 270 is the magic number. where do things stand right now? >> we have the president at 243. states adding up to 243 electoral votes, 270 is the magic numb. what we've recently moved was the state of iowa. that put him at 243. what's interesting here, it means he now only needs a couple of states. a couple of the big states, big three that i talk about all the time. ohio, florida, virginia, a couple of ways and he gets over the finish line. >> we talk about ohio, it's usually a bellweather. you have a couple of scenarios to run through. i think this one shows if president obama takes ohio? >> we do. let me show you what happens when we give him ohio. watch how close he gets to 270. it gets him to 261 here. and now, that means what? there's about four diffe
the holy city of qom where iran is enriching uranium to a 20% level of purity, one step away from the 90% needed to build a bomb. according to the latest report by u.n. inspectors, iran has about 200 pounds of 20% uranium. roughly two-thirds of what it would need to build one nuclear device. at the current rate of enrichment, iran would have enough 20% uranium for one bomb in about ten months. or as netanyahu told the u.n., by next spring or summer. after that it would take just a few months more to enrich the uranium to the 90% bomb-grade level. netanyahu said iran's nuclear program must be stopped before then. >> before iran gets to a point where it's a few months away or a few weeks away from amassing enough enriched uranium to make a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: as defense secretary panetta told norah o'donnell earlier this month, the u.s. has a different red line. >> when they make the decision to go ahead and build a nuclear weapon, that for us is a red line. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence does not believe iran has made that decision yet. but netanyahu said it is too dangerous to r
, no prison inside vatican city, but there's an according with the italian state. he would serve his sentence confined in an italian prison, probably in rome, but the bigge thing is the pope would probably pardon him. he's asked for forgiveness, and the pope has indicated that as part of faith, catholic faith, forgiveness is a huge part of that. he will probably pardon the butler. especially if the butler doesn't make waves. you know, i think the butler is playing along with this particular trial as he's playing nicely, not rocking the boat, not giving any secrets away. there's no reason why the pope wouldn't pardon him. he'll probably never work again in the vatican city or state but he will be pardoned. >> thanks so much from rome. keep us posted on that trial. >> for many, a trip to the spa is part of their vacation, but for some, it is the vacation. next, we'll tell you where the best places to go are if you need to unwind. . yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not
because it is such a hot-bunt issue right now. >> poppy harlow live from new york city this morning. >>> let's go to detroit now and jimmy hoffa, buried under giants stadium, thrown in a florida swamp or dismembered by the mob there are numerous rumors thought about the death of jimmy hoffa but quo soon have a better idea of exactly where his body is or isn't. police say a credible tip has led them to this home in roseville, michigan. that's suburb of detroit investigators will test the soil under a concrete slab for human remains. hoffa was last seen in detroit way back in 1975. reporter kim russell from our affiliate wxyz in detroit joins us now by phone. how did police get this tip? >> reporter: good morning, carl. yes, good morning. the "detroit free press" got a call from a man claiming to be the tipster, he told -- they got a call from a man claiming to be a tipster and he told them that he is elderly and lives out of state, that he is suffering from a terminal illness and he wanted to give police this information before he died. he told authorities that he was interested in a
? >> two events here in the city, at the glol initiative, talke about amerse the world, then he did an education nation interview with brian, very good. showed the fact that he's a policy guy, that heares about issues. but that mitt romney does t get veryuch attention. and he doesn't put it on display very often. omsfighr.now- the thi heas he has to have people like joe scarborough look at him every day on the trail, every day, every event and say, he's fighting for the party. he's fhting for the country. he's fighting to turn the country around. i don't see that. but if he doesn't bome tt e tbas ghe first debate and i be very hard to keep the party together behind him. >> again, time's running out. october 2nd is early voting in ohio. u've got the first debate coming up. you've got people like karl rove. karl rove every day. and that's the guy i wld be looking at if i wereitt ttt romne but all of us should look at karl rove. what's karl doing with his money? karl knows how to use money in campaigns better than anybody else. i still think the 2004 win, one of the remarkable achievem
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magazines all around the set. joshua green. in new york city msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst mark halperin and also the cohost of cnbc's "street signs" brian sullivan. we have a lot to talk about. mark halperin, if you're just waking up and you don't want to read the newspapers, it's friday. you want to get ready to watch nfl games where they actually get the calls right and you just want to read one paragraph. that's why i'm here. i'm sort of the cliff notes for you today. mark, i want you to respond to this. charles krauthammer and "the washington post." charles, the patron saint of conservatives. the headline "go large, mitt." listen to this line. it makes you think how far ahead romney would be if he were actually running a campaign, but his unwillingness to go big, to go for the larger argument, is simply astonishing. and, mark, charles goes on to say what many conservatives have said over the past several weeks. he's behind and he continues to play small. >> he does, and he continues to have days that don't really amount to much. yesterday they had a sort of a v
. louis city schools at roosevelt high school, for the past six years we've been knee-deep in the problem center city. and by the way, we 50,000 kids now with normandie going the other way and not accredited schools, 50,000. philip busch stadium standing room only. we need more people employed in the state. we need more opportunity, we need more dreams to be fulfilled and we are simply languishing at the bottom of the barrel almost every economic category. you know, a lot of education is leadership and it starts at the top. i think there's well-intentioned people. were starting to show signs of progress and it was. we been in there. we've been in the trenches. for six years we've been trying to find a solution to the problems. kansas city, we can help getting it going from the ideas we have. there is racial disparity that comes to economic opportunity and jobs. in the best gift we give somebody as a career. >> jim higgins. >> okay, well one of the most inefficient things you can do with education dollars to send it to jefferson city and let the bureaucrats deal with that and then admit th
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the good-paying jobs such as we had here at gst steel in kansas city, the middle class is going to become extinct. >> neither obama nor romney have public events scheduled for today, but vice president joe biden and paul ryan were both on the trail. the vice president was in florida this morning, ryan is in new hampshire and is traveling to ohio for an event tonight. we will, of course, have more on all of these stories over the next two hours. in case you have not heard, the countdown is on to colorado. even though both campaigns are playing the lowered expectations game, you can bet their furiously preparing for the denver debate. joining me now to talk about it, garrett hake, who has been traveling with the romney campaign. garrett, good saturday afternoon to you. what can you tell me about governor romney's debate preparations this weekend? >> well, craig, i can tell you, so far, it hasn't really started at. at the moment, he's over at his oldest son's house in massachusetts. we are expecting governor romney to participate in some more debate prep this weekend. understand senator rob
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and thunderstorms from oklahoma city, clear to new york city. for today, that's where all the weather's going to be. south of there, pretty warm and sticky. 93 in dallas today, 90 as we get into parts of the southeast. still unseasonably warm in most of the west and you're waking up to a chill >>> 7:16 on a thursday morning. good morning. we have some thick fog this morning, especially at the immediate coast just blanketing the coastline this morning and pockets up in the north bay valley is down to a quarter of a mile. you know hundreds of feet of visibility in gilroy the next two hours. as we head throughout the day, that sun will be out in full force. by 11:00, over the entire bay area and highs will be warm as a result. 92 in livermore, up to the triple digits this weekend. let's look at the weather. maria. >>> justin bieber and his fans are mourning the death of a 6-year-old who snagged the pop star's heart. a remarkable little girl we had a chance to meet earlier this year. tamron hall is here with her story. good morning. >> good morning, matt. >> she was one of justin bieber's biggest fans
time i see the great new building at the world trade center in new york city. folks, also following this campaign you hear and see all of the ugly attacks against president obama. you want to know who's behind them? here it is. "the obama hate machine." i spell it all out about the koch brothers, the paperback edition of my latest book out now in the book stores and if you want a signed copy, go to our web site at billpressshow.com and tell us how you want it inscribed to yourself or a friend or colleague and we'll get it out to you right away. book and mailing and shipping and all of that for just $16.99. we're trying to figure out what's wrong with white males. if you look across the board today, women obama up double digits. latinos up way way way multiple double digits. among african-americans he's up among seniors young people. mitt romney leads barack obama only among white males. what the hell's wrong with us. terry is in kalispell montana. hi terry. >> caller: how are you bill? thanks for taking
broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] >>> we're back, joining me anchor of bbc's news america. catty kay and our white house correspondent and political director, chuck todd. the founder and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph reed and the former democratic governor of pennsylvania, ed rendell. the big debate starting here on wednesday, chuck you're looking at the map and haas what romney campaign is looking at as they look to restart the campaign. as chris christie said. >> nine battleground states, here they are, one of them, we've moved into the lean obama category, but we've pulled in all of them the last couple of weeks, the president has leads ranging from two to eight points. wha
. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] >>> we're back, joining me anchor of bbc's news america. catty kay and our white house correspondent and political director, chuck todd. the founder and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph reed and the former democratic governor of pennsylvania, ed rendell. the big debate starting here on wednesday, chuck you're looking at the map and haas what romney campaign is looking at as they look to restart the campaign. as chris christie said. >> nine battleground states, here they are, one of them, we've moved into the lean obama category, but we've pulled in all of them the last couple of weeks, the president has leads
voting in a swing state, iowa. guess who's there, john king. iowa city, iowa. john, are you seeing many early voters where you are? >> reporter: we have seen quite a few of them, brooke. we had a camera here in iowa city and des moines earlier today. i wouldn't say it's gangbusters but modest lines, people saying pretty good loins and if you look at the stickers, the t-shirts, a lot of them, most of them are obama voters so you would say score the first day of early voting in iowa for the president and a cautionary note, though. there's a strategic difference of the republicans and the democrats. democrats early investing in early voting and i talked to steve grubs saying the democrats won the early voting in 2010 and did quite well in the statewide races and legislative races and there's a difference of how important early voting is and nearly four in ten votes in 2010 cast early. 35 states and the district of columbia allow some form of in person early voting. this is the most critical part. young voters, a state where the young vote for obama did make a difference in 2008. their enth
york city and is just under 90 minutes. >> we are here again once again for the wine institute in connection with this conference dedicated to examining that 2012 presidential election and the way it may be being shaped by the memory of the holocaust and the politics of israel. we can find no to more interesting people to discuss this topic for many, many reasons. first, a former 3-term mayor of new york city, ed koch. [applause] people forget, i do not, but people forget that he actually started out in congress. so with the discussion that we are talking about, it's not merely about his days as america also, he, too, has run for congress and knows what that means. i think in his more recent you can think of him as a kingmaker in guiding the jewish vote. many people -- well, he may not agree to this, but he made many people think of him as a king maker of sorts of where the jewish vote is headed in that is another reason to have him. and he may disown the kingmaker title, but to some degree our next guest, congressman bob turner might say that the support of the mayor had given
for people on welfare. can you obama giving a big speech to the guys in the inner city, guess what, ladies and gentlemen, i'm getting rid of the work requirement. yea! it's a totally ridiculous, demeaning idea, demeaning to both recipients of welfare who have to take it and a president accused of using it to shield and trying to get votes with it. it's so demeaning. >> it's an update of the ronald reagan welfare mean, same racialized politics mitt romney has been playing for the last eight, ten months. this is the -- the welfare requirement, the idea the president is abolishing it, he is taking a gop prescription for reforming welfare and putting it in place, which is giving more power to the states. you know, the details of that, the fact that tons of things the president has embraced are actually rooted in conservative ideology has been a completely lost or disavowed by the republican party. i mean, they -- mitt romney has to win 60% of white voters and will stop at nothing to shore up every white vote he can. and that includes playing to the lowest card in the deck, which is incredibly
city, 80s across the south. >>> well another major tourist attraction is coming to the big apple. the world's tallest ferris wheel. that's right, the 625-foot-tall wheel capable of carrying more than 1,400 people will be built on staten island overlooking the statue of liberty and manhattan skyline. the privately funded project will cost $230 million. city officials hope it will draw millions of visitors. it should be finished in about three years. i'm not getting on that. >> it will be a heck of a view. are you scared of heights? >> you know, i don't see it. so you're up there, ah wow, i'm so high i could die. wow. i don't know. it doesn't make me fool good. i don't need that. >> sunny, think about you and your husband when you maybe courting and having a date and on the ferris wheel, wouldn't get on there? wouldn't be romantic? >> oh, it's so high, my goodness. look i am 1,400 feet up in the air and could fall and die. i don't need that feeling. >> you are not feeling it. >> don't know -- get on the ferry and go to staten island to do it. >> sure, why not. beauti
hampshire today. the republican vice-presidential nominee met with voters in the city of derry just a short time ago. >> all these promises were made in the idea of hope and change. and people -- it sounded pretty good. but when the rhetoric went aside and the time to act occurred, the ideas are the old ideas that have failed time and again. >> as for mitt romney, he spent some time in pennsylvania on friday. and despite trailing the president as much as ten points in some polls, governor romney made this bold prediction. >> it is an honor to be here with you and to be here with these cadets and to be at this extraordinary place that so many presidents past have visited. and well, a president future is visiting today. >> and when i become president of the united states. >> i'm going to win pennsylvania and i'm going to become the next president of the united states. >> we'll be talking with our political journalists about all that in just a moment. today there's reaction and a rare reversal from u.s. intelligence official on what happened in libya. officials now admit they got it wrong. the
quantico. into dale city north of the rest area and heading through woodbridge, all lanes are open. overnight accident southbound 95 near the rapahannock has been cleared. if you're traveling on 66 so far so good. volume has been light front royal into falls church. no issues to deal with right now as you head in towards the roosevelt bridge. the earlier crash from 110 had been cleared from the roadway. back to you. >> thank you, ma'am. >>> redskins celebrate the end of the n.f.l. referees lockout. >> and despite a shaky start, nats pitcher gio gonzalez gets another win. highlights coming up in sports. >> let's do another look at the question of the day. here it is. this activity has declined by 89% since the 1950's. is it a, reading the newspaper, b, taking a bath, or c, writing a letter? >> our facebook friend jolene thinks the answer is b, taking a bath. it's quick and more convenient to take a shower. >> we'll be right back. >>> welcome back. 5:21. your weather first. most of the rain from the west side of metro is gone. howard county, northern charles county, we'll watch. by 9
voting kicked off today. we're here in iowa city. we saw a pretty healthy line. mostly students, mostly obama supporters here. mostly obama supporters on day one. now, republicans say that's overblown. if you've made up your mind to vote even before the debates, you are going to be for one candidate or the other no matter what and you are going to vote. so if you're voting early, voting late, it doesn't matter. but one of the places obama thinks it helps is they had a big swell in the youth vote last time. they had the support in the polls, but, wolf, frankly they think turnout could be down this time. sometimes college students get a bit distracted. one of the things, the president of the university of iowa democrats, her job is to tell all of her friends, all of the fellow students vote now. >> things come up. you can have an exam. you can wait until election day and not know where your precinct is. a lot of student haves to go to elementary schools, they don't have cars, they don't know where it is, any extra obstacle can keep students home on election day. early voting gives us 40 m
and dozens of drunk driving convictions had to be tossed. but the city says new equipment is now in place and this program resumed today. >> i think some people may have said, why is this taking so long. one of the things we've done is ensured we've got a solid program. a rock-solid program. and one that is scientifically viable. >> in addition to the breath test, the d.c. council passed a bill earlier this year authorizing tougher penalties for impaired drivers. >>> the search for a man described as armed and dangerous. a nationwide manhunt that's led police to our area. >>> a bird strike may be to blame for a fiery plane crash. it killed more than a dozen tourists. >>> the lost piece of art that cost a woman just $7, and could have fetched $70, >>> authorities in nepal say a fiery plane crash may have been caused by a bird strike. the twin engine plane crashed just two minutes after takeoff from kathmandu. there were 19 people aboard the plane, all of them were killed. the victims were from great britain, nepal, and china. several people on the plane were tourists on their way to mount
of these men gave grand speeches in new york city. both looking presidential. yesterday they both campaigned in ohio. remember, ohio, ohio, ohio. it's critical. and today, in fact at this very hour as we speak, they are in the state of virginia. and that's why brianna keilar is there watching very closely what goes on with both these candidates. let's talk about the president. he's due to speak in about 45 minutes from now. and i think mitt romney is due to speak in springfield at the same time. so if the election comes down to these particular key states, is this where we'll see them and this is it? >> these are the states where we'll see them. ohio yesterday, extra have a today. and a couple things going on here. you mentioned early voting. early voting both absentee, mail-in and in-person, begins in virginia today. so no coincidence that you have barack obama and mitt romney campaigning in the state. but they're trying to cut into each other's base. where is mitt romney today? springfield, virginia right outside of washington, d.c. northern virginia, that area, is really obama territory.
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in new york city. welcome back to "morning joe." mark halperin and john heilemann are still with us. and joining the set, nbc news's tom brokaw, good to have you with us. >> so mika, we need some help. >> we do. >> from viewers. e-mail us. >> or tweet. >> what's the best e-mail or tweet? what's the best one for us? >> joe@msnbc.com. >> tom brokaw believes, like espn, we need to brand events, we need to brand this wednesday debate. tom, you suggested the rocky mountain rumble. i like that. we had the donnybrook in denver from mark halperin. >> and yours was? >> the mile high. >> that's just a story. we need some suggestions. >> there's our twitter address. >> but you're going, though. >> i'm on my way today. >> what are you looking for? >> i'm going to spend time with undecided voters in golden, colorado, still is a battleground state. we want to hear what they're looking for on wednesday night, what bothers them right now. these are always the people that intrigue me. i think governor christie is dead right, by the way, when he says people are now beginning to tune in. we've been ta
to the cities and the lives lost. but both sides reach fatigue, i think neither side is close to that point. i do not see anyone coming to a solution to involving the use of military force to break the belligerence apart. >> i think either side is close to that point of fatigue, and i don't see anyone coming to a solution involving the issue of military force to impose a settlement on the situation. it is going to continue to be ugly for a long time. i can't say how long. two weeks, maybe two years. back in the early '80s, killing 80,000 people, and not giving up allied control of the country. that is what he is facing, not just as personal destiny and his family, but his whole people. >> a grim note. i will open it up to questions from the audience. please put up your hand, and when i recognize you, a microphone will come. the police tell us who you are first and keep your questions brief. >> i'm from the atlantic council. i find it refreshing to tie a middle east discussion without mentioning israel and palestine, but i will muddy the water. i was wondering, what are the long-term implicatio
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